Pine Valley Chapel

Emilio, Photography

Pine Valley Chapel

I have a problem with Baptism, especially in the Mormon faith. I am not a Mormon, nor a very religious person. I have prayed, but not for myself. Those moments I feel closest to a deity is when I am out in nature, never in a church, temple, or chapel. When I was much younger, I remember walking into St. Patrick’s Cathedral and whispering, “oh, my God” at the magnificence of the interior. My ears were dutifully boxed by my father! (I did not press charges as no permanent damage was sustained.) So, as for baptism in the Mormon faith it occurs when the child is 8 years old and said child has shown faith and repentance. Repentance of what? What has a child of 8 accomplished, good or bad, that he or she must repent? And does an eight year old have faith? Or does he/she attend church/temple because his/her parent says he/she must? (I’m getting tired of this he/she business. From now on I will use the female gender only because, well, I like my female gender to come with a little sin!) The reason I single out the Mormon’s is only because I have recently been witness to a baptism where the daughter was immersed (no sprinkling of a little holy water for the Mormons but a tiny pool where the father dunks his sinful child under and holds her there for the balance of the prayer). This is one of the nicest 8-year-old girls I have ever met. Has she sinned? Told a lie? Probably. But is any lie evil enough to warrant her being forced to bathe in front of friends and family? (OK, she is totally dressed so it’s not like she’s really bathing. I just wanted to make sure you were paying attention). And she’s dressed in white for goodness’ sake. Isn’t white the universal sign of innocence? If she is innocent, has she sinned? Must she be immersed under water and ruin her hair do? I don’t know. I just have so many unanswered questions!

(If you, too, have questions, please visit me at Photos By Emilio where I have lot’s of answers. I just need someone to ask the questions!)

30 thoughts on “Pine Valley Chapel

  1. What a handsome shot Emilio, so many strong lines and shadows. The two people give it the appearance of a scene straight from aTennessee Williams play – “But sister, I kissed him . . . I know I have sinned.” Or maybe they are discussing what to bring for the pot luck supper, who knows? I know I don’t!
    My suspicion is that man created religion in order to keep women in their places.

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        1. Sounds good to me! On one condition. The man wears the pants! I would look stupid in a skirt. Call it a kilt if you like it’s still a skirt! 😉

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  2. Interesting conversation you sparked, Emilio, but then again, that shouldn’t surprise 😉 I agree with what Joe said – baptized In the Lutheran church, I consider myself a religious person, but quietly so. I have found as an adult that I prefer my own quiet reflections to those of communal gatherings. As for your photo, beautiful shadows and lines!

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  3. Actually Emilio I am a Mormon. My children were baptised as babies into the Catholic faith (don’t ask). As soon as they were born I was pestered into organising their baptisms. A baby has no sin. Anyway Jesus was baptised by John the Baptist by being fully immersed in the water. Thus we do it the same way. All adult men have the priesthood authority – they have to be interviewed and held worthy first though. I hope that answers your question.
    Great photo by the way. 😀

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    1. Thank you. It does. And I didn’t mean to single out one religion over another. It was just the last religious service I had attended and stuck in my mind!

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  4. Really love this image, Emilio. The architecture is simple, yet “oh my gosh” worthy.
    As for singling out one faith … I am a baptised but not definitely not a practicing Latter Day Saint, and my son was baptised at 8. I’ll just say this: each faith, religion, sect, whatever, has it’s concerning and in fact, scary, beliefs. I’m not sure that the LDS faith is any worse than any other.

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  5. I think there are always many unanswered questions when it comes to religion. It is about believing in something, not knowing. There are so many different ways to practice religion and I agree with Joe, who am I to judge. Great photo Emilio and very interesting to read your thoughts! 🙂

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    1. I like that I’m getting more comments about religion than about the photo. I was hesitant to say anything but really, I don’t understand the Mormon baptism. As far as belief systems- mine can be judged just as harshly as anyone else’s so, as you and Joe are quick to point out, who are we to judge?

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  6. Great light and I love the way you framed this image with the trees Emilio 🙂 Very well done. As far as the religious part goes I was always of the belief that faith is what is inside of you and how you conduct yourself going through life. It is not specific to any building or day of the week or congregation. I too fell closest to a deity when I am in nature, not in a building repeating what other people are saying. Having said that I don’t fault people who feel that way. As Pope Francis so eloquently said “who am I to judge”.

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    1. Growing up I have been inside a few houses of worship- Catholic, Jewish, Christian, Mormon. But, as I said, I feel the most religious when I am out in nature. As for overwhelming love and acceptance, well, I think you can guess my answer to that. In the arms of my wife! (There I go again, getting all sappy!)

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    1. I would agree that baptism is a spiritual moment. But I question the need for an 8 year old child to actually repent. Do they even know the meaning of the word? I am glad you have your faith. I am glad for anyone who has faith, whether in a church, temple, or outdoors. Thank you, Brenda, for visiting and commenting. I want to go check out your blog, now!

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  7. Baptism is a step that the Bible commands us to take as a witness to our new-found faith. It is something that should be chosen by an adult, and not imposed on a child. Quite often people confuse Christening with Baptism, but Christening is just the family and friends making a commitment to raising the child within the Church. I don’t like the sound of what you describe. Baptism has no value in washing away sin. It is just a step of obedience to Christ’s commands.

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    1. I might be off on whether or not this was a baptism as I have very little (OK, no…) knowledge of the Mormon faith. I got information strictly from Wikipedia, which states: “According to this theology, baptism must be by immersion and is for the remission of sins (meaning that through baptism, past sins are forgiven), and occurs after one has shown faith and repentance. Mormon baptism does not purport to remit any sins other than personal ones, as adherents do not believe in original sin. Mormon baptisms also occur only after an “age of accountability” which is defined as the age of eight years.” Now, when I went back to find this quote, I came upon an actual LDS site that states: “The Savior revealed the true method of baptism to the Prophet Joseph Smith, making clear that the ordinance must be performed by one having priesthood authority and that it must be done by immersion”. So now I question why the father of the child performed the baptism and not a priest- or whatever their title.

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